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beautifulsam
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 Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 08:20 am
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Dear Abe fans,

I have been a fantastic manifester since finding LOA. I do well I stay in the vortex and I teach others. However. I get depression sometimes for three days and I cannot find the next thought up and I just try to stay away from ppl and to not think as I am creating very very bad things when I am depressed. :(When I'm not... I create such beautiful days for myself and everyone around me.

I am very advanced in all this to the point of beleiving I am responsible for the depression. I have not watched my thoughts and have let it slip in sometimes.

I live completely alone, and am on a giant stage most of the time being an inspiration to people as my job. ::singer

When not depressed I am moving forward so fast towards the wonderful things I want. but hwen depressed it is so overwhelming I fear I go backwards a few steps.

 

I have no supportive frineds and no partner. It's not far off I have a great personality and am ok to look at lol. My self esteem is fine obviously

what does abe say about this?::hearts

 

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 Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 02:31 pm
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Welcome to the forum, Beautifulsam! I'm so glad you reached out.  You mentioned that you live alone and don't have any supportive friends.  Well, on this forum you'll find thousands of beautiful supportive Abers.  I don't have much to say about the depression thing - I don't know much about it - but I'm sure others will share wonderful stories of what has worked for them.  I do know that you were feeling bad and decided that you wanted to do something to feel good, and that lead you to this group, which is fabulous.  I think you just might find what you're looking for here, and again, welcome aboard! 

Su ::hearts

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 Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 04:13 am
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Thank you for your lovely reply.

xx

 

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 Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 03:22 pm
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this is your now, be ok with it and appreciate all that is going on NOW.

Then look to what your life is going to be like in the near future, what you are in the process of manifesting your tomorrows.

Your depression sounds like loneliness to me, just guessing of course.  Check out the Meet-up groups in your area.  There has go to be at least one that peaks your interests.  There are also single groups too.  I have one in my area for boomers and we have the best times, lots and lots of laughter.  It's funny, none of us ever hook up, we are just really good friends.


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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 12:36 am
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Depression doesn't "stop" LOA any more than it "stops" gravity.  Can you use the power of your focus to make yourself miserable?  Of course.  Does that make the sun stop shining, plants from converting CO2 to Oxygen and make things suddenly go hurtling off into space?  Does a piano fall on your head immediately when you think a negative thought?  Does it fall when you've held yourself in depression for a few days?  Of course not. 

There's a stream of well-being that is carrying you forward that you simply can't resist.  You can slow yourself down a bit, you can make a bumpy ride, but it's YOUR stream of well-being.  YOU created it. 

You're afraid sometimes and get depressed for a few days.  NO. BIG. DEAL. 
So RELAX.  You're doing just fine.  You'll get the hang of this more and more, there's nobody waiting to hit you with a hammer if you're not perfect.  Just RELAX.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 02:32 am
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abraham experiences something like depression. it's not a bad thing. it's guidance. your guidance is telling you to relax when you're depressed. uptight and lethargic people need to relax, aka the depressed.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 10:01 am
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Thanks everyone. Awesome replies. I like the idea of just relaxing if it hits me again. I am currently rapidly climbing up the scale and just to feel that tiny bit of relief almost makes me escatic haha.

yeah chillinjoan, you are right. it is loneliness and I am surrounded by a lot of people all the time, but I really need to let some of them get close.

thanks mark. I realise it doesnt ever stop... but your comment about the piano etc really hit home.

 

thanks for moving me too. I really appreciate the big love around here ::hugging

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 10:27 am
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Maybe you can get a dog ? a cat ? a monkey ?

or a human ?

hehe just a suggestion..

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 11:28 am
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beautifulsam wrote:  it is loneliness and I am surrounded by a lot of people all the time, but I really need to let some of them get close.


This is a great realisation beautifulsam! I just have one suggestion. Instead of trying to let someone in, why not try to work your way up the egs specifically on this subject. You can type or write thoughts on the subject of letting people get close that represent each emotion to you. You can start wherever you are, or if you are not sure you can start at Depression and just work your way up. (This technique was suggested in another thread, and it really works for me.) If you can get to feeling content or even hopeful on this subject, you will just turn around one day and realise that you 'accidentally' got really close to the people that you love.

::hearts Kate

p.s. if you want a more detailed description of this process pm me and i'll send you the link to the other thread ::hugging

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 02:24 pm
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Just ask yourself: What would it feel like if I was the ideal person that I desire to be?

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 03:14 pm
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One thing that extends depressive episodes is being depressed because you're depressed. That compounds the problem and makes it last longer.

I have learned that when I feel less than my usual cheerful self, it's time for me to self-soothe - I LIKE that alone-time on the couch to recharge my batteries - and I treat myself the way I would a beloved child or pet...and sometimes it just FEELS GOOD to chill and do nothing.

The result? The blues go away so fast now. It's rare that the feeling even lasts an entire day, and I don't get them frequently at all. One every couple of months, maybe. But it's Ok - it's my opportunity to go within and practice what I know - finding my way back into the Vortex, one thought at a time.

-C

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 03:25 pm
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For the last few days I have been feeling really really good. Then by evening as I am in the company of my alcoholic husband who is being a real rascal these last few days I am dragging the bottom of the emotional guidance scale.

And wondering--"what the heck is happening? I thought I moved past these feelings!" Then; "This is so not fair. This whole LOA stuff is bogus"..etc etc etc.

Then as I sat in my anger and powerlessness, I had a thought;

"This too shall pass"

And with that it begin to lift. I rediscovered that I don't have to push myself off from here, don't have to find any solution. Just know that life keeps moving and as I ride the stream without fighting it, I will re emerge into Joy before I know it.

And as I sat, slowly drifting downstream I asked the question;

"Why does this powerlessness feel so BAD?!" If I am powerless, then fine. I could adjust to that. But it always feels so BAD!

And the answer that slowly trickled up was "Because you are not!"

And I could see how, through habit I keep shoving myself back into that "powerless" mode. Powerless to change what is happening around me. Powerless to stop being bashed against the rocks of limitation and anger and resentment.

Fitting myself into this "Powerless" mode is like trying to fit myself into this tiny rigid space suit that hurts everywhere and keeps squeezing me smaller and smaller into more and more powerlessness.

No wonder it feels so bad. I am limitless, eternal. I am Joy. I am a POWERFUL creator. I am the center of the universe!

So beautifulsam, Beautiful Sam! I am writing here for my own selfish reasons. Because  responding to other threads that I am attracted to helps me gain more clarity about my own journey, my own path in the game. So I sincerely thankyou for posting.

Explore for yourself why this damm depression feels so bad to you. Your whole wisdom is within you. Be easy about where you are. There is only a stream of Wellbeing and it really really IS all good!

Again...::TU:kiss:

 

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 03:38 pm
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Sam, did it ever occur to you that your 3 day "depression" might just be you giving yourself a little time to rest and catch up?  A really fast moving stream can sometimes be exhausting.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 04:04 pm
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I used to suffer from depression and i no longer fear it. The key is being constantly aware  of your EGS moment by moment thought by thought, and as soon as you get an inkling of feeling badly--or feeling a little uncomfortable, QUICKLY notice your thoughts and SHIFT, PIVOT, FORK. You are the thinker of the thoughts. Your EGS shows you where those thoughts are in relation to your IB.

I think you may be letting yourself observe and react, observe and react. Dont let your focus be so sloppy.

BTW when you said, I love completely alone (i thought, oooh how lucky to have that much freedom--yum!, lucky you!).

DOnt be hard on yourself for not having supportive friends or a partner--when you are in depression, LOA wont let you access it because you have pinched off. See all of that as a *temporary* evidence of your vibration. You can change this, but not by reading words, but by actively applying to every moment and every thought and FEELING your way. Focus wheeling, forking, pivoting, going up the scale, doing BOPAS (when you feel good--but doing them every day). I am excited for you! LOA changed my life and I know it can change anyone who wants it and lets it happen. Appreciation is key and so is telling it how you want it to be and making a big deal out of every little good thing and basking and being easy on yourself. YOu can do this!

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 04:09 pm
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How about letting yourself off the hook ?  How about giving yourself PERMISSION to feel bad once in a while ?

You don't have to be on top of the world all the time and you certainly can't be held responsible others being on top or not, so stop worrying about your profession in relation to this LOA-thing and lifting others.  Just focus on your own vibration and take the three days off from work to bathe in charging your own batteries.

Hope this helps you...

:kiss:

Belana

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 Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2010 02:59 pm
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Hey Kaz.

it's not very relaxing. You see when I'm depressed I lose friends jobs and clients. I scream at people.I write lengthy emails about how someone has "hurt" me etc. I cancel jobs and let friends down. I don't do my training which makes me lose competitons I should easily win. I smash expensive phones and once a laptop. I otherwise lie in bed all day. No housework no shower and my skin and eys look like crap ....I usually spend the follwing week cleaning up the mess.

It's pretty powerful stuff :)
It's not just me feeling sad or down. It's voilent and life stopping.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2010 03:03 pm
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Thank you everyone for your lovely replies. I have found a little in each one helpful. I just want to ad I dont just feel sad... It's full on. see my reply to kaz . But it's only three days and in those 3 days I have usually managed to destroy a little bit of my life. I'm good right now  and pretty sure I'll stay here

thanks again

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 Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2010 03:45 pm
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I believe that when I am feeling *lonely*........it is my own connection to my Inner Being that I am seeking.

Aloneness does not mean loneliness.

In fact, it can mean All-one-ness.

*It's never out-there"....within, within, within. Your OWN connection. ah.........I adore abraham and their powerful reminders of the power and freedom that I have.

Emotional independence.
me and ME
you and YOU.





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