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mniakm
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:30 pm |
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Hi Flower Power, you ask a good question, I myself wondered about this...
So, the answer is no...as long as your vibrations are strong in their positivity, you have nothing to worry about, but please do not let others bring you down with them...they are not deliberately trying to make you suffer, but human nature is such that we sometimes fear others jealousy of us or we fear that they may "jinx" us...lol, I myself used to believe in this concept...but have no fear, just stay grounded and stay focussed in the positivity of the good things you have acquired in your life, and in fact, it is better to discuss them openly, since you are expanding on these good things even more as you discuss them longer...but sometimes, you might prefer to avoid certain chats with certain people, since they might be downers and to avoid getting sucked in, yes, you can keep this type of situation private to help you stay high and happy and secure!
Great work manifesting this!!
Amy
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leewatters
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 01:09 am |
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mniakm wrote: Hi Flower Power, you ask a good question, I myself wondered about this...
So, the answer is no...as long as your vibrations are strong in their positivity, you have nothing to worry about, but please do not let others bring you down with them...
No one else can EVER "bring you down." The only reason you get down is that you choose to. You choose to match their "down" vibe and make it your own.
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Belana
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 06:01 am |
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mysticalcreator wrote: I'm glad I was helpful!
A great thing to be aware of is "how do I feel after spending time with this person?" If you feel worse after spending time with them, it might be because you are not setting the intention of keeping your vibration aligned and you are allowing their views on the world or on you to influence your vibrations.
You can also turn this the other way around and vibrate so strongly in a positive way that THEY'll be influenced by you instead of you by them.
If you always turn everything they say around when they're talking negativity, or ask them questions that make them think, or interrupt their pattern by saying or doing things that seem crazy, they'll stop it after a while.
What you'll notice in the long run is that when they are around you they become more positive (or stay out of your life alltogether)
Love
Belana
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Belana
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 06:04 am |
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Flower Power wrote: By the way - love your location !! 
Me too 
I created this whole planet all by myself 
Belana
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ghanima
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 07:00 am |
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| What do you do to not be influenced vibrationally? I would love to get better at it. I am not too bad when with people who are not too close, but with those who are closest to me I never managed especially when they get very negative on me, like they say or allude to negative things about me.
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Belana
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 08:18 am |
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Ghanima,
You can do that in various ways 
One way is focus your attention on something else, like the beautiful shape of a flower and wonder how "they" could create such a thing that fits so beautifully together, having all those different parts. When you start thinking about the flower your thought pattern about what they are saying is broken and you can hardly hear them.
Another way is by responding, like if they say: "what an awful dress you're wearing" you can answer: "I'm wearing this to honour the designer, that person is worthy of making a living too" or "I'm wearing this to make you a contrast to me, your dress is even more beautiful next to this ugly thing" 
Or break their pattern totally by doing or saying something that doesn't "fit" at all, like if they're going on about your ugly dress you could say: "look, there's a green monkey on the chair". Bet they'll take no notice of your dress any more. They're going to wonder if everything is O.K. in your head 
Belana
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shiningsalsa
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 08:21 am |
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Ghanima, read the thread "What Would Inner Being Say?", there's a brilliant post about others vs your IB. I was where you are before I read it and can now flip myself downstream in an instant, I'm sure it will help.
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cigi
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 02:15 pm |
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"But still, within you today lives the knowledge that you are the creator of your own life experience, that absolute freedom exists as the basis of your true experience, and that ultimately the creation of your life experience is absolutely and only up to you."
-Abraham, Ask and It Is Given
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ghanima
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 04:35 pm |
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shiningsalsa wrote: Ghanima, read the thread "What Would Inner Being Say?", there's a brilliant post about others vs your IB. I was where you are before I read it and can now flip myself downstream in an instant, I'm sure it will help.
It was the post of Ocean wasn't it? brilliant!
Yesterday, I said to myself, "I didn't deserve those words from that person."
"No you didn't," said my IB "And that's why you should be listening to ME!"
But I find it still difficult (well let's say it, impossible) to be in touch with my IB while in presence of others. This is actually the one reason why I seek solitude so much, and as I seldom can have it now in my life, I'm freaking out big time about it.
Is it so easy for everybody else? to understand this would change my life radically, as it would solve a key issue for me, that I think I can't have freedom (aka connection with my IB) while surrounded by people I love.
The presence of people totally confuses me. Especially those I love most and those I have just met.
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 05:17 pm |
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Flower Power wrote:perhaps some of them will say "yeah right
Or perhaps ALL of them will say "I hope she remains happy with that person". They might just be putting emphesis on your insecurity as a "reflection".
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 05:21 pm |
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Immortal-Code wrote: Flower Power wrote:perhaps some of them will say "yeah right
Or perhaps ALL of them will say "I hope she remains happy with that person". They might just be putting emphesis on your insecurity as a "reflection".
I.C=
Those are the sneakiest!
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cigi
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 05:32 pm |
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Ghanima , don't be so hard on yourself.
But I find it still difficult (well let's say it, impossible) to be in touch with my IB while in presence of others. This is actually the one reason why I seek solitude so much, and as I seldom can have it now in my life, I'm freaking out big time about it.
Your IB is ALWAYS with you, connected to you, guiding you. UNLESS you are CHOSING to freak out - then you're putting yourself into a position of resistance. Resistance = Disconnection.
Is it so easy for everybody else? to understand this would change my life radically, as it would solve a key issue for me, that I think I can't have freedom (aka connection with my IB) while surrounded by people I love.
Freedom is something you can choose for yourself at any time. If you are having trouble staying centered around others, then simply excuse yourself for a few minutes & get it back together. AND take time for you - schedule time to be alone, if that's what you want. Remember, you are in control.
The presence of people totally confuses me. Especially those I love most and those I have just met.
Could that be because you are concerning yourself with what they MAY think of you?
The point is - YOU are worthy of having satisfying relationships in your life & YOU can make choices that will bring that to you when and where you wish.
PLUS - I think you're pretty cool!
cigi
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 06:04 pm |
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Hi ghanima
I get the idea that Abe would tell you not to be so hard on yourself. Let me rephrase that: -
Go easy on yourself - whatever you are doing, wherever you are.
You've been expecting discomfort when around these people - so you got it - and when you got it you judged yourself for it!
Funny how easy it is to do that (I know!), but how crazy it sounds when another person does it!!
Yesterday, I said to myself, "I didn't deserve those words from that person."
"No you didn't," said my IB "And that's why you should be listening to ME!"
I had this conversation with my IB the day after my difficult encounter. I don't think I could have heard it when I was speaking with the other person because I was more a match to the discomfort vibe than the IB guidance vibe.
Truth is, I knew I was going upstream at the time, but I still went! The difference this time was that I had the awareness (even though I ignored it!) and I dealt with it so differently afterwards. I recognised that I had matched the other person's vibe. I also recognised that I wasn't responsible for the other person. I felt less caught up in the whole thing. I got over it so much more quickly than I might have in the past. That must have been why I was able to hear my IB so clearly.
I learnt from it and I really appreciate that I'm absorbing so much of this stuiff now that I had that awareness during the conversation and lifted my vibe so well afterwards.
I bet if you are kinder to yourself and easier on yourself you will start to see that you have already made changes with these people too.
Raising your vibe is like opening the curtains and seeing the beautiful view you didn't know was there before!!
You certainly communicate with a lovely vibe on here. Keep going downstream here and you can't help but take other areas of your life with you.
BTW I understand about choosing solitude when discomfort around others becomes intolerable. I am actually changing my vibe on interacting with others right here. It's amazing!
First though I had to accept that it was OK to be where I am. (I, too, had been judging myself for it.)
I guess our IBs must have guided us to (temporary) solitude for a very good reason. Though you are not alone, you have all of us.
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Ocean x
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 11:42 pm |
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Sorry, I must have sounded quite pathetic, but the intention of my post was different. I'm not being hard on myself or anything like that, I'm just saying that in the presence of others who are being aggressive I can't have any communication with my IB that is more complex than noticing if I feel good or bad about what they say. More in general, when I'm together with others, their presence absorbs so much my attention that my inner connection is not so clear as when I'm alone.
Maybe we are just giving to the expression 'talking with my IB' a different meaning.
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Posted: Fri May 16th, 2008 12:29 am |
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Yes and NO..
NO---other persons cannot create in your experience.
but
The fact that LOA has brought someone to you to make these statements demonstrates that YOU have a vibration going on within you that has attracted them to come to you and pluck those cords.
This is why Jesus told the healed man to go home and say nothing to anyone. He needed time to be with his miracle on his own and be solidified in the KNOWING of it.
Same goes for the miracle of a wonderful job or a wonderful relationship.
Go forth and say nothing. Just BE in it.
On a recent CD from Los Angeles, a woman was asking Abraham how it was that she KNEW she was going to get the new Lexus, yet her friend and her husband were cautioning her against believing she could get it.
She blamed the others for making her doubt that the Lexus was coming.
Abraham said that these others were ATTRACTED to tell her these things because she was not vibrating total faith and knowing that it was coming.
So all it means when those people make comments about your jobs or lover is that YOU need to do more vibration-strengthening on those topics.
Just silently thank them for bringing you the message.
Pat
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