So all it means when those people make comments about your jobs or lover is that YOU need to do more vibration-strengthening on those topics. 

Just silently thank them for bringing you the message.

Pat

Last edited on Fri May 16th, 2008 12:40 am by ghanima

ghanima wrote: Sorry, I must have sounded quite pathetic...  NOT AT ALL... Hhmm...  Pathetic...  That's quite a judgment.  Why do you think that?  Is vulnerability pathetic?  Didn't someone here say we are mirrors to each other?  What we think others think of us - is actually what we worried/vibrated about ourselves just in that moment? ...but the intention of my post was different.  I'm not being hard on myself or anything like that...   ...Telling a story that allows you to feel connected on your own and in the company of others. I'm just saying that in the presence of others who are being aggressive I can't have any communication with my IB that is more complex than noticing if I feel good or bad about what they say.  Me too.  Isn't that generally true for everyone?  (Isn't that why IBs guide us through feelings most of the time?)  Unless you prepave the situation to expect clarity from your IB and raise yourself so far up the EGS that whatever the other person is saying you can't leap that far down the EGSAbe says smaller movements up the EGS are 'easier'.  Doesn't that work both ways?More in general, when I'm together with others, their presence absorbs so much my attention that my inner connection is not so clear as when I'm alone. Personally, I find it depends on the story I have been telling myself about the other person, or the situation, before I even get involved.  Plus, at the moment I don't generally expect a clear conversation with my IB while I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone else.  ...Though now you have got me thinking that I want to prepave situations to have that kind of clear guidance through words or intuition.                                                                                              

Oooh, thanks for the opportunity to point myself in this direction, ghanima!    I can now remember times when I have been higher up the EGS when communicating with people and have felt inspired.  Now I am thinking this way, I think I am finding the vibe for it.Maybe we are just giving to the expression 'talking with my IB' a different meaning.   ... Maybe!  There are as many perspectives as there are people and moments!!   

 I  think there are a number of ways to 'talk with my IB', depending on what I'm vibrating and where I am/what I'm doing in that moment. 

I can see now (this train of thought is certainly helping me!!) that I tend to prepave - ie. expect - certain types of exchanges with other people.  This type with a sibling.  That type with a sales assistant if they have/haven't got what I want to buy.  This type with a parent in this situation.  That type with a friend if we are discussing that particular issue. Etc etc!!!

I don't have particular issues with people, either.  I am actually confident in talking to people.  And many have been shocked when I have backed off or expressed vulnerability.  I think the reason I have tended to need some solitude is that I have been particularly sensitive to my own need to feel connected and authentic at all times.  Plus, I hadn't embraced/allowed my discomfort with people whilst with them!  (Until I took the risk in this forum.)  And therefore hadn't allowed myself to raise up the EGS in their presence.  (I'm learning such a lot about myself here.)



I'm not saying you're the same, ghanima!  That's my pie.  That was my pie.  But I can understand the desire to stay true to yourself and feel connected and high-vibe when with other people. 

Outside influences (of people, media etc) can be strong if we are matching their vibe.  (Or matching the vibe of vulnerability.)  Isn't that why Jerry Hicks 'retreated' for a number of years??

Pat wrote: "So all it means when those people make comments about your jobs or lover is that YOU need to do more vibration-strengthening on those topics. 
Just silently thank them for bringing you the message."

So, either it goes the way I want OR there's contrast which reveals to me what I do want and reminds me to make it my business to raise my vibe! 

Thanks Pat.  Brilliantly put. 

Thanks to all of you for allowing me to do here what Abe says is my work: "Lie in your bed..."  (Or come to this forum!) "...and feel the discord of it and work it around in your mind until the discord goes away -- that is YOUR work.  Work it around until your fever breaks. Work it around until you feel better.  You're the only one who can do the work..."



HUGS

Ocean x

Last edited on Fri May 16th, 2008 05:55 pm by Oceanturquoiseblue

Don't use this as a reason to hang around 'doubt' on the EGS. You could find a new way of interpreting your experience with this other person, or practise turning your attention to other things. [Hunt out a favourite old song you may not have listened to for ages - List all things you love in the world - Watch a film that moves you - Make the most indulgent ice cream sundae you can - Write a letter to this person, getting it all off your chest (just don't send it) - etc etc] If you turn back to this issue again at any point, know that that's fine. Just don't stay there. Imagine you have the remote control and are changing channels!

I find browsing through old and new threads here really helps. ...Someone will have words which resonate with you and help you feel better.

Ocean x

Last edited on Fri May 16th, 2008 08:06 pm by Oceanturquoiseblue