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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 02:23 pm |
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I have just been wondering about these two emotional places, love and power. The energy of each of them feels very different to me. Both these emotions are at the top of the emotional scale. But i find that they feel very different. Love being more open and heartfelt and power being more dynamic and active. So i guess that each vibrates and attracts differently, yet both are connected to Source.
Has anyone heard abraham talk about this? I would love to understand it more.
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Songbird
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Jody1
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 02:36 pm |
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Hi Songbird,
This is such an interesting question! 
I think you might be using the word "power" when "empowerment", which is the word Abraham uses, might have a different ring to you. Power implies (usually) having power "over" something, or exerting control over someone or something. Whereas, "empowerment" implies feeling empowered with and by the SELF.
By the same token, "Disempowerment", is the very bottom of the EGS, and is synonymous with having no freedom, no influence over our own lives. "Empowerment" means we feel our enablement to create our own reality. We feel FREE and yes, "powerful", in the sense that we can direct our lives toward our desires.
Love, and "empowerment" are the same vibration because "self empowerment" is a necessary component to Love. I think what Abraham means by giving so many terms to the very top of the scale (Love/Joy/Appreciation/Empowerment) is that all of these have very fast and high vibrations and when we vibrate there our point of attraction is at its least resistant. While each of those words may feel different to us when we use them, I think that in a real sense they are "all rolled up into one" great big emotion! When you think about it, one can't exist in the absence of any of the others! That is so cool!
The last time I was on the hotseat, I asked Abraham about FUN and LOVE. They said that Fun and Love are the same vibration!!! So that's another one that can be added to "empowerment" and all the rest! I thought that was so very interesting, that fun and love are both "emotions" and vibrate in the same vicinity.
Think about when you feel empowered. THAT'S when you can love, appreciate, and have fun! Think about when you feel disempowered... you can't, from way down there, have access to(or as Abraham says: A whiff of) joy, love or fun!
Words are really fascinating.
    Jody
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New Dawn Rising
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 08:49 pm |
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Jody1 wrote: I think what Abraham means by giving so many terms to the very top of the scale (Love/Joy/Appreciation/Empowerment) is that all of these have very fast and high vibrations and when we vibrate there our point of attraction is at its least resistant.
Never heard Abraham talk specifically about this SongBird but I do agree with Jody here. What all these different "flavors" of the high-vibe emotions have in common is that they are all pretty much resistance-free.
Reminds me of a ritual they used to perform in the Church of Religious Science. They would light seven candles representing seven aspects of God. These aspects were... to the best of my ability to remember:
light, life, wisdom, peace, power, beauty, joy
To that list I would add:
freedom, love, appreciation, harmony, clarity, fun.........
Yum... just thinking about these delicious words makes me feel good. Each one is pretty much resistance-free... yet each one has a different feel to it. And they are all wonderful! 
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Posted: Sun May 18th, 2008 06:20 pm |
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Jody1 wrote:
I think you might be using the word "power" when "empowerment", which is the word Abraham uses, might have a different ring to you. Power implies (usually) having power "over" something, or exerting control over someone or something. Whereas, "empowerment" implies feeling empowered with and by the SELF.
"Empowerment" means we feel our enablement to create our own reality. We feel FREE and yes, "powerful", in the sense that we can direct our lives toward our desires.
Love, and "empowerment" are the same vibration because "self empowerment" is a necessary component to Love.
Think about when you feel empowered. THAT'S when you can love, appreciate, and have fun!
Hi Jody,
Thank you for clarifying that the term used is empowerment rather than power. It does feel different to what i was feeling as power. It feels to come more from love, as you said, and so feels much more of a match to that vibration.
I am going to feel into this to get the difference of it. Self empowerment...oooh that feels good. Self empowered. It feels like it puts you in control more somehow, in the driving seat. I can see how empowerment is more aligned to the other emotions that are aligned to Source energy. It feels like self empowerment is a flow directly from the same aligned energy of our inner self. Maybe when we are aligned with our true desires and acting on them we are self empowered. Empowered as we are connected to the energy of Source, and acting on it.
Thanks so much for making this clearer to me. It does feel alot different and i love what you say that self empowerment is a natural component to Love. It feels like it is born naturally out of self-love.
Sometimes, for me, it feels like a choice to be loving or to be in my power, and i think that is probably at the root of my question. Because i was thinking which is best if they feel so different. And wondering about that because i have a desire to be much more in my power in my life.
But self empowerment, and what you said puts a different angle on that.
With thanks
songbird
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Posted: Sun May 18th, 2008 06:22 pm |
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Thanks new dawn rising. Isnt it great that when we focus on something we feel it.x
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Posted: Sun May 18th, 2008 06:26 pm |
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Great post, Jody! That really explained a lot to me.
I think/feel Abraham, being so broad in their perspective, uses and chooses so many different words so that they can reach out to so many differing perspectives with what is truly just one simple message!
This is the odd part, for me at least: They send thought blocks to Esther, and her brain translates this block into words. If the message is the same, the vibrations of these thought blocks would be the same. (I would think, at least!) Somehow, one, the other, or both together, figured out the great value of using different words to explain the same truth to many widely varying perspectives (us "people").
And in so doing, we gain/remember a wider perspective, and old messages that just bounced off us earlier have this whole new enlightened meaning, and we say... "Well, DUH! Why didn't I get that before!?!?"
Well, that's what happens to me, at least!
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songbird
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Posted: Sun May 18th, 2008 07:52 pm |
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| Self empowerment = empowering the You in you.
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Posted: Sun May 18th, 2008 08:53 pm |
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songbird wrote: Self empowerment = empowering the You in you.
 so simple yet so meaningful!
Love it 
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KatherineCHE
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 12:41 am |
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Words! Such fun!
In my work with the chakras, I discovered the difference between "Power to" and "Power over." We should all strive to feel that we have the Power To _________ (and we each get to fill in that blank). But, we should always strive to let go of any desire to have the Power Over anyone or anything.
It is SUCH an interesting distinction, and the two things feel ENTIRELY different. I find that feeling I have the Power To certainly vibrates right there with love and joy and appreciation because I feel all those things entwined with feeling I have the Power To (or I am Empowered). It is exciting and thrilling and light and beautiful.
I also think the issue of translation through Esther is another interesting topic. I remember a story about Jerry and a letter he had translated from English to Spanish to give a friend. Then, for fun he took that same letter (now translated into Spanish) and had it translated (by someone else) back into English. He hardly recognized it.
For this reason, I have heard Abraham say that we are each, individually the best translators of Source, that we are all connected to Source and can ask these questions directly. I started doing that a bit after the Caribbean cruise, where they talked about that a bit more, and I have found I have gotten some WONDERFUL information.
Has anyone else started asking directly??
Beautiful Vibrations Abound!
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Jody1
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 05:03 am |
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songbird wrote:
Sometimes, for me, it feels like a choice to be loving or to be in my power..
This is a really important comment. I think it is a trap that we humans, and if I may say so, especially women, fall into often and it is worth examining on its own.
We somehow have been taught that to love is to give our power away! And this just doesn't work. It is the reason many relationships flounder. Where one partner has given up her (or his) power in the name of "love", things get all out of balance and nobody is served. What Abraham teaches us is that without our own self-empowerment, we cannot be "loving". Since empowerment and love are the same vibration, we can't really have one without the other. And this is huge.
 Jody
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 03:03 pm |
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jonquilmusic wrote: Great post, Jody! That really explained a lot to me.
I think/feel Abraham, being so broad in their perspective, uses and chooses so many different words so that they can reach out to so many differing perspectives with what is truly just one simple message!
This is the odd part, for me at least: They send thought blocks to Esther, and her brain translates this block into words. If the message is the same, the vibrations of these thought blocks would be the same. (I would think, at least!) Somehow, one, the other, or both together, figured out the great value of using different words to explain the same truth to many widely varying perspectives (us "people").
And in so doing, we gain/remember a wider perspective, and old messages that just bounced off us earlier have this whole new enlightened meaning, and we say... "Well, DUH! Why didn't I get that before!?!?"
Well, that's what happens to me, at least!
jonquil
In the earlier CDs, not so much now I've noticed, you can hear Esther saying "in other words .... in other words ... in other words ....." over and over again as she looks for as many ways to "translate" that energy as possible.
I noticed on Saturday that she hardly used that phrase at all - what a fascinating evolution of her expression of Abraham! 
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Posted: Wed May 21st, 2008 08:50 pm |
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Jody1 wrote:
What Abraham teaches us is that without our own self-empowerment, we cannot be "loving". Since empowerment and love are the same vibration, we can't really have one without the other. And this is huge.
Thank you Jody, that really sums it up.
What i am learning from taking what ive learnt from this thread is to feel more positive about my own power by thinking more in terms of empowerment. It seems to be helping alot, just that change in words (and therefore in vibration). Because i see that it empowerment is very positive, coming from self love as well as a connection to who we really are.
Thanks for helping me see (and feel) that empowerment and love are the same vibration. And that empowerment is a form of love, love of self. That the two are connected. Empowerment helps you to be true to yourself. Which is the same as being aligned, i guess.
I think that abrahams teachings really can help women to feel more positive about being empowered in their lives.
At the bristol workshop abe answered a question from a women by saying how she was responsible for closing her gap and her husband was responsible for closing his.
I think that too is empowerment; closing your gap!
With love
songbird
Last edited on Wed May 21st, 2008 08:51 pm by songbird
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KatherineCHE
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 03:44 am |
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As I was getting into bed, I started thinking about Esther when she is channelling Abraham, and I thought "how powerful she is" -- she is so gentle and humorous and kind and CLEAR. I was remembering when she used a particular word to describe someone in the hotseat, and the person disagreed. And, Abraham just said yes and repeated it. I thought "how sure and powerful" and I then I remembered this thread, and it all kind of clicked together in my mind, a new synthesis for myself, a new understanding of what Power -- in love and through love and with love truly is. It is what we see when we connect with Abraham through Esther -- in fact, we get a personified glimpse at ALL the top-tier emotions in that instance. I don't know if I am translating my thoughts at all well, but I just had to pop right back out of bed and share and say THANK YOU. We are all co-creators, co-decipherers in this together!
Beautiful, Powerful, Loving Vibrations Abound!
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