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Phoenix
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 06:28 pm |
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The Oct. 2 daily quote email had the following quote I've never heard before from Abraham:
"There are lots of thoughts out there thinking that have nothing to do
with you. When you ponder them, you activate a corresponding
transmitter within yourself and now you and that thought, wanted or
unwanted, are friends."
I'm a little confused by this quote.
1. Is Abraham saying that there are thoughts out there that are actually thinking without people attached to them?
2. Or is Abraham just pointing out that there are a lot of people thinking thoughts that aren't in our vibrational escrow (i.e. negative news stories about people we don't even know, etc).
3. If I come in contact with a thought that has nothing to do w/me (i.e. I often think while walking down the street that I might get attacked and how I would protect myself) how long would I need to ponder it before I activate a corresponding transmitter and start bringing it into my experience?
I worry about this sometimes and soothe myself by reminding myself that positive thoughts are more powerful than negative thoughts. I just don't want to attract an attack into my experience because I spent too much time thinking of how I'd protect myself.
Any thoughts?
Phoenix
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HoneyBlue2
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 07:00 pm |
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Phoenix wrote:
3. If I come in contact with a thought that has nothing to do w/me (i.e. I often think while walking down the street that I might get attacked and how I would protect myself) how long would I need to ponder it before I activate a corresponding transmitter and start bringing it into my experience?
I worry about this sometimes and soothe myself by reminding myself that positive thoughts are more powerful than negative thoughts. I just don't want to attract an attack into my experience because I spent too much time thinking of how I'd protect myself.
Any thoughts?
Phoenix
My thoughts vs other people's thoughts, here's my take on that one
At a young age, an incident happened in the bed I was sharing with my younger sister. It woke her up and she started screaming so loud that my mother came in the room and both my sister and my mother told me I was a "pig" (throwing up in the bed is the ultimate "disgust").
Why am I telling you that? From there on, and up until I reached the age of 35, I kept on seeing pregnant women do it in the subway, on the bus, on the street, everywhere I looked it seems to be happening. Now, I understand that what happened to me years before, the thought that were expressed by my relatives, got stucked on my mind, and because of that, I kept attracting a "disgusting" situation. I started having panic attacks while traveling as I didn't want to "disgust" anyone. Do you see the vicious circle?
Like you, I used to be afraid to go out, especially at night, until I realized that I became the perfect "victim" in that even if someone would physically hurt me, I would not want to hurt him back, I knew I would be frozen on the spot, unable to defend myself.
All these thoughts are no longer alive in my mind - they are gone.
I have "forgiven" myself for the incident in the bed, after I understood that there reactions had nothing to do with me but had to do with the level of love in their hearts.
And as for the fear of being attacked, this too is gone, as I now have deep trust that ALL IS WELL, that I am divinely protected, that I am strong and very well able to do what I would need to do, in other words, I live in the "now" without any fears as to can come next. I live like that all the time, I have no fears, none.
Hope that helped a little bit.
Joy-Lise
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 07:28 pm |
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Phoenix wrote: 1. Is Abraham saying that there are thoughts out there that are actually thinking without people attached to them?
2. Or is Abraham just pointing out that there are a lot of people thinking thoughts that aren't in our vibrational escrow (i.e. negative news stories about people we don't even know, etc).
3. If I come in contact with a thought that has nothing to do w/me (i.e. I often think while walking down the street that I might get attacked and how I would protect myself) how long would I need to ponder it before I activate a corresponding transmitter and start bringing it into my experience?
I worry about this sometimes and soothe myself by reminding myself that positive thoughts are more powerful than negative thoughts. I just don't want to attract an attack into my experience because I spent too much time thinking of how I'd protect myself.
Hi
My understanding of this (if I'm wrong please correct me)
1. Yes, I heard Abe say that a thought that has been thinked continue to think, and I also heard a quistion about where does the negativ thoughts go when we die and return to PPE. And the answer was something like the thoughs still exist and someone else can tap in to them.
2. I dont think they mean this in this context.
3. 17 sek then LOA start to bring a new though on the same subject and then 17 sec and a new though........
But how long it will take before it manifest I dont now. There has to be some momentum going on before something happends.
I think the best protection is to follow Abes advice, Nothing is more importent then to feel good, happines creates a momentum that keeps unwanted things away, and if you have a specific fear, soothe it untill the fear is gone.
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 05:25 am |
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Phoenix wrote:
3. If I come in contact with a thought that has nothing to do w/me (i.e. I often think while walking down the street that I might get attacked and how I would protect myself) how long would I need to ponder it before I activate a corresponding transmitter and start bringing it into my experience?
I have heard Abe say our thoughts kind of balance each other out, i.e. you will get a mix of all thoughts projected. If, however, you continuously and emotionally fearful thoughts as you are walking, probably you increase your odds of attracting that which you are fearing by creating that vibration.
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 07:20 am |
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I think what Abe is saying is that you become "friends" with a thought when you choose to give it your attention. Rather then trying to figure out how long it takes to make an activated thought into a manifestation, try focusing on those thoughts that make you feel good, i.e. catching yourself in the midst of a negative thought and pivoting to it's positive counterpart and making that thought your new best friend.
Megan
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Phoenix
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 05:04 pm |
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| Hi Megan - thank you! I think that is a great idea and I have consciously been doing that, or at least trying to find a thought that feels a little better.
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 07:05 pm |
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Hi Pheonix; I take it to mean that there are thoughts out there and if you invite them into your life, positive or negative, by being a vibrational match then they will grow because you are focusing on them.You get what you give attention to. But if the thought is one that is not wanted, you simply need to pivot or turn that thought around by asking "if this is something I don't want, then what is I do want? And then focus on that!
I have also heard Abe say that there is a buffer of time before something manifests and that our thoughts are not like a loaded gun that we need to be afraid of. We have the power to choose what we accept into our life. A friend of mine uses a great visualization technique whenever she has a fearful thought or doubt. She imagines that she is having a party and having a great time and then hears the doorbell ring.When she opens the door, there is fear and doubt, standing on the porch waiting to come in. She says, very politely, so there is no negative drama," Oh, I'm sorry fear and doubt, but I'm busy entertaining Joy and Love right now so perhaps you could try again at a later date." I always picture this dejected look on their faces as they walk away while inside the party goes on! 
Peace and Blessings
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 07:26 pm |
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She imagines that she is having a party and having a great time and then hears the doorbell ring.When she opens the door, there is fear and doubt, standing on the porch waiting to come in. She says, very politely, so there is no negative drama," Oh, I'm sorry fear and doubt, but I'm busy entertaining Joy and Love right now so perhaps you could try again at a later date." I always picture this dejected look on their faces as they walk away while inside the party goes on!!
 What a awesome way of putting it! i love that!!!
One technique i would do was take 3 deep breathes and get myself quite and imagine i am standing on the top of a hill or whatever scenic place you feel comfortable with and in your hand you have helium balloons. Think of each balloon as your fears- you can say it out loud or just think it, and as you release them one by one into the atmosphere say thank you to the universe for releasing your fears. watch your fears simply float away !!!
Hope this helps! i know it did for me! Every time i see a balloon come into my vibration- other then birthdays- i ask myself what do i need to release and let go of. You will find the answer, say thank you and watch the balloon go!
 Nichole
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 03:23 am |
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Joy-Lise, This is a personal note re your childhood incident. Thank you for relating it because it opened a window into something I didn't even know I needed to clean up vibrationally: When I was 7, I became sick while in bed, and did not know what was happening, and ended up vomiting in the bed. My mother was horrified because we were staying at her mother-in-law's house, and so it was "grandma's bed" that got grossed out. For YEARS, I was terrified of inconveniencing someone and horrifying someone by throwing up.....It is only NOW, from reading your post, that I realize the OVER reaction was due to being in GRANDMA'S guest bed!!!!
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So back to the question about thoughts. Abraham has said that
"Every thought that ever has been thought keeps on thinking."
That is both a metaphysical and an science of physics Law.
Thoughts are the product of consciousness, and are energy, and they "exist" once they have been "created." And they are subject to LOA, just like everything else.
And they attract unto them other thoughts that are related, or are like them, and so they get "bigger."
My understanding is that as others in the "Universe" think similar thoughts, the energies of these thoughts find each other.
However, just because these thoughts can expand and get bigger, does not mean that YOU have to ACTIVATE them in your experience. I think that this is the "fear" that comes up about this idea of "living thoughts."
So, I would say it is sort of like the clouds that you see. If the conditions are right, and the energies build, the clouds gather together and get larger until you have a weather system going. YOU don't have to choose to invite that storm into YOUR life. You just are aware that it is out there, that's all.
By the same analogy, you can see a cloud or two in the sky, and choose not to focus on them..
Similarly, there are thoughts that are unwanted. You know they are there....you have experienced the thoughts before, but YOU do not choose them. Even if they DO expand and create something big in the life experience of someone ELSE who DOES connect in with them and makes the thought "true"for him/her. YOU "choose not that" as Abraham says.
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HoneyBlue2
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 11:15 am |
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Dear Pat
Isn't it something that we got "stucked" with the thoughts or emotional reactions of those that we thought loved us!!! It's a life changing experience to say the least. Reason why, I, myself, decided to allow kids and even adults in my life to do things that others would not have "allowed". And the vicious circle kept on going, from one "deeply hurt" individual to the next, I was and still am there to love them unconditionally!!!
Still to this day, I attract deeply hurt adults, and without Abe, I would keep "nursing" them forever and ever. This pattern keeps challenging me as to what I want, it keeps reminding me that I can't save every hurting hearts and souls, and reminding me that NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT I FEEL GOOD.
Any idea how I can turn things around and start attracting strong, healthy, and "functional" adults?
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 03:12 pm |
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Hi Phoenix,
I remember listening to a diologue where a lady talks about this subject. I cant remember where i heard it....may have been on youtube. But the questioner was speaking about how she felt when she was crossing the golden gate bridge and that she felt she picked up some depressed thoughts and was asking abe about this. I think she was saying that she had done the same journey lots of times but had not had this experience before.
The reply was saying that all the thoughts that people have thought are still there but that you have to be in the vicinity of them (with your own thought vibration) in order to attract those thoughts. If you are not in the vicinity, vibrationally then you cannot attract those kinds of thoughts. LOA - Like attracts like, in thought form.
Maybe someone else knows recalls where this dialogue was from.
Best wishes
songbird xxx
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 03:26 pm |
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HoneyBlue2 wrote: Dear Pat
Isn't it something that we got "stucked" with the thoughts or emotional reactions of those that we thought loved us!!! It's a life changing experience to say the least. Reason why, I, myself, decided to allow kids and even adults in my life to do things that others would not have "allowed". And the vicious circle kept on going, from one "deeply hurt" individual to the next, I was and still am there to love them unconditionally!!!
Still to this day, I attract deeply hurt adults, and without Abe, I would keep "nursing" them forever and ever. This pattern keeps challenging me as to what I want, it keeps reminding me that I can't save every hurting hearts and souls, and reminding me that NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT I FEEL GOOD.
Any idea how I can turn things around and start attracting strong, healthy, and "functional" adults?
Hmmmmm. Joy-Lise---Someplace within the past few days I read something from another teacher, I think, that said that there are many people who have "learned" (from who-knows-where?-and it doesn't matter)---that in order to be 'loved' or to feel "lovable," we have to take in people who need "fixing."
"OH! I am doing this because I have picked up that erroneous idea! How interesting! Now that I have called my own hand on it, I am released from doing that thing that I do to distract myself from what I really want to be about in my life---HAVING A GOOD TIME!!!!"
That is my little self-pep talk on the topic!
 Pat
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 02:46 am |
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patricia b wrote: HoneyBlue2 wrote: Dear Pat
Isn't it something that we got "stucked" with the thoughts or emotional reactions of those that we thought loved us!!! It's a life changing experience to say the least. Reason why, I, myself, decided to allow kids and even adults in my life to do things that others would not have "allowed". And the vicious circle kept on going, from one "deeply hurt" individual to the next, I was and still am there to love them unconditionally!!!
Still to this day, I attract deeply hurt adults, and without Abe, I would keep "nursing" them forever and ever. This pattern keeps challenging me as to what I want, it keeps reminding me that I can't save every hurting hearts and souls, and reminding me that NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT I FEEL GOOD.
Any idea how I can turn things around and start attracting strong, healthy, and "functional" adults?
Hmmmmm. Joy-Lise---Someplace within the past few days I read something from another teacher, I think, that said that there are many people who have "learned" (from who-knows-where?-and it doesn't matter)---that in order to be 'loved' or to feel "lovable," we have to take in people who need "fixing."
"OH! I am doing this because I have picked up that erroneous idea! How interesting! Now that I have called my own hand on it, I am released from doing that thing that I do to distract myself from what I really want to be about in my life---HAVING A GOOD TIME!!!!"
That is my little self-pep talk on the topic!
Pat
Looks like I have to clean up my vibration on that subject.
Thanks much for your reply.
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