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Do you HAVE to be at a cruise or workshop to see LOA work (better)
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Daggz
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 Posted: Wed Apr 28th, 2010 10:20 am
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Hi there,

I am new to this forum and let's say unexperienced in manifestation. I got the ::rocketthing going well, like probably most humans do. Sometimes I even get the joy out of the contrast, but it seeems (I make it...??? Out of the vortex thought) to be out of reach for me to actually manifest deliberately.

I wondered if I have to get to a cruise or workshop to actually get in the vortex (probably not...?), is it easier to get back into the vortex after the workshop/cruise.

If I am on the leading edge, then I am probably the only one for about 2500 miles (I live in the Middle East right now, and the times of great philosophers here are OVER).

Sorry about the whining, maybe some of you blessed ones can give me a little notch toward the right direction. Back to the vortex it is....::grapevine

 

 

 

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 Posted: Wed Apr 28th, 2010 06:21 pm
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I have only been studying for 4 months myself.
I have been to one workshop and it was with a friend who was cynical thru the whole thing, which made it harder to enjoy.  Then having to listen to her an hour and a half home, jeesh !

I can honestly say, I did not let her take me there with her.  I pretty much laughed at her and kept bringing up wonderful things and people I met there.  When I got home I was still elated.

I watch DVD's and listen to CD's every single day and read one of their books before going to bed, then I go into a creative workshop as I drift off to sleep.

This all works for me, I am so hungry for all this info !

I would looovvvve to go on a Cruise!  A HUGE WANTING HERE, it is coming soon, I can feel it.  To the point I am getting a passport.

You can do this, listen, watch, read, as long as it takes to snap back in the Vortex.

This site helps too !!

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 Posted: Wed Apr 28th, 2010 09:48 pm
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I got started on Abe last fall by listening to cruise recordings, and I highly recommend them. They build a rhythm. They run to 11 or 12 CDs and it's so fun to listen to one after the other. They really got  me going with Abe, and yes, got me into the vortex. We're all in the vortex some of the time anyway, Abe says, just not nearly as much as we could be. 5%, I think Abe says, is "normal," but Abe says we can be there 95% of the time. It's something to gradually shoot for. I'm there over 50% of the time these days, and sometimes more. 

I did end up going on a cruise in March, and it was my first exposure to Abe in person. And yup, it was powerful. But listening for several months beforehand was also powerful. More powerful than reading the books alone, which I used as an adjunct to listening. And this forum is powerful too. I'm sure you can get all you need without attending a workshop.

Welcome! ::hugging

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 Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2010 02:55 am
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"Do you HAVE to be at a cruise or workshop to see LOA work (better)"

Certainly not. LOA is consistent, all the time, everywhere, LOA is at work. The first time I met Abraham in person was last month on the Caribbean cruise (have never been to a workshop before), but I've been manifesting big stuff intentionally and putting their processes into practice for 2-3 years.

"I wondered if I have to get to a cruise or workshop to actually get in the vortex (probably not...?), is it easier to get back into the vortex after the workshop/cruise."

Like Ellen said, everyone gets in the vortex on a regular basis with or without the workshops. And while I found it was really easy to get into the vortex on the cruise, it was not necessarily easier to get in after I came back home.

Anytime you feel pleased with the way your day has gone, you are in the vortex. Anytime you enjoy the nuzzling of your puppy to your ear, you're in the vortex. Anytime you anticipate the fun of an upcoming activity, you are in the vortex. Anytime you smile at a funny joke, you are in the vortex. It's easier than you are making it out to be.

BTW, I met a woman from Saudi on the Caribbean cruise, so I'll bet there are at least TWO of you over there!

RR

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 Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2010 03:56 am
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this forum works

listening to CDs works

watching DVDs works

focus weels, pivoting, etc. works

workshop works

cruise works

meditation works

ALL these works for me together OR separate, except reading Abe books.  This is strange, since I am an avid reader of deep material::chin

Daggz
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 Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2010 06:03 am
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::TU

Thanks Guys!!!! You made my day ::hearts. I am listening to abe alot and read the books. The Focus wheels I've tried (don't like them too much, at least for the moment), but the meditation is difficult for me I "think" that I am not getting it right. But I am trying everyday.

:allgood DesertDaggz

 

 

 

Joyous_LadyJ
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 Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2010 06:40 am
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Hi,

You might be surprised re: "If I am on the leading edge, then I am probably the only one for about 2500 miles (I live in the Middle East right now, and the times of great philosophers here are OVER)."

When I was in Dubai in '08 I thought a LOA attitude was pervasive.  It seemed to me that everywhere I looked someone had said "I can do this thing I have imagined"; the evidence of that sort of thinking was everywhere I looked.  Abu Dhabi is not that far and even though I did not get there on that trip I met some folks from there who were x-patriots from the US.  There is a large collection of individuals there who are from elsewhere. I am not sure how things are accepted.  I remember keeping a book cover on whichever Abraham book I was reading at the time during that trip.  I was not comfortable having something I thought might be considered 'heretic' material highly visible. 

The islands they were building were clearly manifestations of someone's great beliefs and thoughts.

The towering buildings were the same.

The theme park that was to have 200,000 employees was the same

Even in my hotel, the little button on the night table that allowed you to turn out all the lights in the room with one click of the switch was a "wouldnt' this be nice" sort of touch that someone manifested.  The same for the button on the night table to turn on the "do not disturb" light outside the room.

They may not call it LOA but there are many people there practicing it somewhat deliberately.

If you prepave finding like minded individuals I am sure you will be able to find them.

and in the meantime, we are here.  Esther and Jerry's website has tons of material as well as a lot of youtube videos.  You can join us on Facebook as well. 

Getting in the vortex just takes leaning in the direction of the better feeling thought consistently.  At any point in time you have access to 1) the thought you are thinking, 2) a thought that feels a bit worse than the thought you are thinking and 3) a thought that feels a bit better.  If you pick the thought that feels a bit better, now you are in a new place from which you have access to the thought you are thinking (used to be #3) and thought that used to be #1 but now it is "a thought that feels a bit worse than the thought you are thinking" and a brand new thought that feels a bit better than the new thought you are thinking.  If you again pick the thought that feels a bit better; the thought you started with is now out of range and you only have the thought that was a bit better than your original thought, your current thought and a thought that is a bit better than your current thought to choose from.  See how it works?  You always have a thought about 1 degree better or worse available from the thought you are currently thinking so if you keep leaning in the direction that feels better you leave the thoughts that did not feel so good and get to where your thoughts feel good.


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