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 Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 03:23 am
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Hello,
I'm wondering, where have these teachings been all my life? Looking back, I've often realized what a controlling atmosphere I grew up in. I can relate to the phrase, "Once you know what you DON'T want... then you will know what you DO want." It seems since my earliest memories I've been a person seeking a "better, truer way". Maybe 50 years worth.

Unfortunately, after reading/listening to quite a bit of the Abraham-Hicks material the past few months, I realize now I was wrongly focusing my thoughts on the pain, and the why and the deep sadness of my life.. or the difficulties in the lives of my children... never for a minute, realizing that I was attracting more of it. Wow... I HAVE BEEN A powerful MAGNET for the wrong stuff.

It's just very recently that I realized for the past nearly 40 years, I've lived my life at the very bottom of the emotional scale... Deep grief, despair never spoken of... but visible every day. I can't explain right now... but it involves what occurred during the birth of my first daughter. It wasn't until 2 years ago, that I learned that it's something so rare and disfiguring that it only occurs once in about every 400,000 births... Some genetic defect, until I read that, I always thought I had caused it. There's so much more... too complex to explain...


Hopeful news... after discovering the teachings, I have just recently been getting a tiny glimpse of what it's like to feel good... The feeling was so amazing and rare, it was as though I was walking around in a foreign (to me) country.

But, perhaps you can imagine since I lived daily with the unwarranted guilt and despair all those years... what other horrors, I might attract to my self and my other children. Things unspeakable to my younger kids... much damage, only coming to light the past few years... fractured relationships, family stability destroyed... a long period of un-wellness for me at one time, for a few years.

In addition to all this... one of my children was a victim of domestic violence and abuse... she escaped with my grandchild...but there was a horrible TRIAL and jail time and now he's out seeking revenge. Sorry I don't have a photo... our lives have been threatened.

I can't seem to be able to sustain the "feeling better" for more than a very short time... I consider my self a Christian (since a very young age...) and have studied the Bible as well as other teachings...

Well, please know that I'm sincerely grateful for any wisdom or advice.
I know I have so much to offer others with my life work... I'm just so stuck.

Vivianna

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 Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 08:23 am
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Hi Vivianna,

One thing to set your mind at ease about is that you can't attract events and happenings into anyone else's life, including your children.  When you think of your children and you see their contrast, think of all the amazing things that are waiting for them in their vortex.  In yours too, it will be a powerful thing when you find your way there.
Congratulations on your glimmers of well being.  Keep going and enjoy them completely.  The more you immerse yourself in them, the more frequent they will become.  Look for the nuggets of wellness and positive aspects in your environment and put all of your focus on them.  You must have been doing some of that before because you attracted Abraham into your life!  That's a powerful positive desire answered.
I find that one of the best mood lifters is the success stories on the forums.  Have a trawl through there and feel your spirits rise.
Welcome to the forum.
I look forward to reading all your posts about how your life is turning around.

Karen

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 Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 08:34 am
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HI

I'm just sending you a bit of love, as I know what you go through. I beleive it gets easier. I have reached out too. When it's good it's really good and we should both try and make it last right?

so you're in good company.

I hope you and your daughter are safe

:)

 

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 Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 11:36 am
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kmc164 wrote: Hi Vivianna,

One thing to set your mind at ease about is that you can't attract events and happenings into anyone else's life, including your children. 

Karen


Thank you for that thought. It does offer a bit of relief. 

You know I was just looking at my avatar...It was a photo I took last summer of a very low cloud, floating over a field near me. I liked it before, but now this moment, (even though the small cloud was white) it seemed to represent something hanging over a situation. In an otherwise beautiful sunny day...the cloud is casting a shadow on the field...  It needs to go.


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 Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 02:46 pm
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SeekingRelief wrote: kmc164 wrote: Hi Vivianna,

One thing to set your mind at ease about is that you can't attract events and happenings into anyone else's life, including your children. 

Karen


Thank you for that thought. It does offer a bit of relief. 

You know I was just looking at my avatar...It was a photo I took last summer of a very low cloud, floating over a field near me. I liked it before, but now this moment, (even though the small cloud was white) it seemed to represent something hanging over a situation. In an otherwise beautiful sunny day...the cloud is casting a shadow on the field...  It needs to go.




The cloud is fine, it is you storyline that needs to change for you create with your thoughts. But dont worry, it also means you shot amazing wonderful rockets or expansion into your escrow. The pain you feel is not going with that. Keep reading and start applying the process. And stop telling the bad feeling story to yourself.

Just move up the scale the best you can and in no time you will see much improvement.


The Emotional Guidance Scale




1.
Joy/Appreciation/Empowered/Freedom/Love

2.
Passion

3.
Enthusiasm/Eagerness/Happiness

4.
Positive Expectation/Belief

5.
Optimism

6.
Hopefulness

7.
Contentment

8.
Boredom

9.
Pessimism

10.
Frustration/Irritation/Impatience

11.
Overwhelment

12.
Disappointment

13.
Doubt

14.
Worry

15.
Blame

16.
Discouragement

17.
Anger

18.
Revenge

19.
Hatred/Rage

20.
Jealousy

21.
Insecurity/Guilt/Unworthiness

22.
Fear/Grief/Depression/Despair/Powerlessness
From the book “Ask and It is Given”, pg. 114

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But dont worry, it also means you shot amazing wonderful rockets or expansion into your escrow.
Could someone explain that a little more please? I think I might have the idea about the escrow part...but, what does rockets of expansion mean
How do I do that? I was amazed when I first saw the E.G.S. a month or so ago.  So do you sort of attempt to stay in a higher emotion until it feels true...? Moving up becomes a process... sort of step by step?

Today I was listening to a recording of "The Astonishing Power of Emotions" and on the very last segment... Abraham is speaking and a few phrases really resonated with me:

There is a "contrast" I was deliberately born into... am I appreciating it's life giving qualities? 
Play what I want - against what I don't want.

Every time I feel negative emotion, I've deviated from my opinion of Source
Be what life has caused me to become..
The Art of Allowing... releasing resistance to allow energy that creates worlds, to flow through me... coming into vibrational alignment...
Not only who I was before, but who I am since..

Then... "when life causes you to be something you don't want, (for whatever reason) ... it beats up on you pretty bad."
I guess this must be the resistance. (Yikes.. unfortunately I can totally relate this statement to my past)

Well, thank you again all.  Evey... you have the name of a favorite aunt. When I was 3-4 she regularly took me to her little church that was filled with love. We lost regular contact later because she moved away. I believe she was one of the few people I knew who seemed to be aware of finding a better way.

Last edited on Thu Jul 1st, 2010 10:43 pm by SeekingRelief

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 Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 11:59 pm
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I am going to ask one of the moderators to move this thread to the regular forum where you will a lot more answers!

For me, youtube abraham videos were an amazing source to get up to speed.

:kiss:

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 Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 12:33 am
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SeekingRelief wrote:
Could someone explain that a little more please? I think I might have the idea about the escrow part...but, what does rockets of expansion mean

All right I'll give it a go.

Whenever you experience something that you don't want, you immediately know what you do want. This is not always deliberate or even conscious but it always happens. The rocket of desire is you knowing what you do want and sending that desire (consciously or unconsciously) out into the universe. This is referred to as Step One - Ask

Step 2 is the most exciting to me, and it is not our work at all, but i like knowing how it goes: Source energy sees what you do want, and because Source can only feel good they have the power to immediately turn 100% of their attention to the desire. They do not for a second focus on the lack of the desire, or tell the old story of what you don't want. So for them, powerful LOA gives Source what YOU do want instantly. And Source revels in what you do want, and they adore you for giving it to them, and they sit over there in it (your vibrational escrow) just calling you with all their joy to come and join them in it. (Isn't that delicious?)

Step 3 is the allowing. That is where you are able to do as source did and focus only on the positive thing that you do want (or at least not focus on the negative lack of it). When you stop looking at the lack, its like Source just grabs you and pulls you into your escrow. it is natural for you to go, but focussing on lack holds you apart. and that focus and that feeling of being held apart feels like negative emotion. So that is why Abraham says the most important thing is to feel good. Because feeling bad in just an indicator that you are holding yourself apart from source.

Isn't it magnificent?

::hugging Kate

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kategibson wrote: SeekingRelief wrote:
Could someone explain that a little more please? I think I might have the idea about the escrow part...but, what does rockets of expansion mean

All right I'll give it a go.

...The rocket of desire is you knowing what you do want and sending that desire (consciously or unconsciously) out into the universe. This is referred to as Step One - Ask

So that is why Abraham says the most important thing is to feel good. Because feeling bad in just an indicator that you are holding yourself apart from source.

Isn't it magnificent?

::hugging Kate
Thank you.  You explained that so beautifully. Before reading this, I didn't understand that it's up to me to know what I want... and then also to send out that desire... I just looked to my left and there's the rocket ::rocket
Would you say it might be helpful to write these down on paper?
Also, if I understand correctly... this is something you only do one-time for a specific desire? In other words, I don't continue to send the same rockets out?

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Evey wrote: I am going to ask one of the moderators to move this thread to the regular forum where you will a lot more answers!

For me, youtube abraham videos were an amazing source to get up to speed.

:kiss:
Thank you... I appreciate it.:)

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SeekingRelief wrote:
 I was amazed when I first saw the E.G.S. a month or so ago.  So do you sort of attempt to stay in a higher emotion until it feels true...? Moving up becomes a process... sort of step by step?

Attempting to stay in a higher emotion until it feels true is self-defeating, and will end up making you feel even worse... The EGS is your emotional guidance system. We live in a vibrational Universe, and everything, including emotions, has a vibrational value....

Basically, 'low' or 'negative-feeling' emotions have lower energy, whilst 'high' or good feeling emotions have high energy. To move up the EGS, you first need to accept where you are: depression or fear, and really accept it - it is only an indicator showing you that your thoughts are not in harmony with your Inner Being's thoughts, Source's thoughts and knowledge - once you've done that you just find feelings a little higher up the EGS, like anger. Going from depression to anger feels great! It's relief, you feel energy flowing through you... And that is always the aim, find relief, find relief... Move up just one emotion a day and in 3 weeks time you're at joy!



There is a "contrast" I was deliberately born into... am I appreciating it's life giving qualities? 
Play what I want - against what I don't want.

Every time I feel negative emotion, I've deviated from my opinion of Source


Not quite! Your opinion has deviated from Source's opinion. Whatever you are thinking about or looking at, Source is only seeing the positive aspects. The true nature of things... which is that they are all Source. So if you're looking at a person and thinking thoughts of fear or hate or anger, seeing only their 'bad' actions,  Source is looking at them and loving them unconditionally. Source knows there is no right and wrong, good or bad. Source knows that we don't make mistakes, we don't ever get it wrong. We just create and respond (emotionally) to contrast. And if the contrast is unwanted, well we just launch those rockets of desire (automatically) and expand ourselves and the Universe. But if we don't go with the expansion, and instead keep looking at the contrast that caused the expansion we are going to feel bad... And that's all feeling bad ever is. Looking at un-wanted and thinking it is true, when Source is looking at the joy and abundance and love we have created and KNOWS that that is true.
Be what life has caused me to become..


And all that contrast has caused you to become something amazing, and joyfully happy! moving up the EGS allows you to start to feel what you have become. And when you get stable in the feeling of what you have become, your physical reality starts to change to match your feelings.
The Art of Allowing... releasing resistance to allow energy that creates worlds, to flow through me... coming into vibrational alignment...
Not only who I was before, but who I am since..

Then... "when life causes you to be something you don't want, (for whatever reason) ... it beats up on you pretty bad."
I guess this must be the resistance. (Yikes.. unfortunately I can totally relate this statement to my past)


Yup! That's resistance! Don't worry, we have all done it, and we still do it, no one gets it right all the time. One of the many gifts in the teachings tho, is the realisation that you never get it done and you can't get it wrong. Forget about what you did in the past. Turn your mind to what you want now. And every time you feel low, just find a way to feel better.

If you haven't got any of the books yet, you really should! Ask and it is Given is a great place to start, it explains really clearly how LOA works and your magnificent role in the Universe. And it has loads of processes for feeling better. 

The forum is great for discussing the teachings and fine-tuning your understanding of different aspects, but it will help you immeasurably to have a good basis direct from Abe. 

With love for the journey,

Rach

::hugging  


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SeekingRelief wrote: kategibson wrote:  I didn't understand that it's up to me to know what I want... and then also to send out that desire... I just looked to my left and there's the rocket ::rocketHoney, you don't need to know what you want and it isn't up to you to send out that rocket of desire. It happens automatically. Every time you get a bill you can't pay, you send off a rocket of desire for more money. Every time someone is rude or unkind to you, you send off a rocket of desire for people to be polite, friendly, kind. And the Universe answers your desire EVERY time. The only thing you have to do, is allow the desire. And all you have to do for that, is find ways to feel better.
Would you say it might be helpful to write these down on paper?

It's helpful to write them down and talk about WHY you want them, why it would be soooo good to have them. Don't justify why you want them, cos that gets you thinking about the lack of them. What would feel good about having them.

Writing is a great tool cos it helps you focus, but writing anything is only of benefit if it makes you feel better.  

Also, if I understand correctly... this is something you only do one-time for a specific desire? In other words, I don't continue to send the same rockets out?

You do continue to send the same rockets out if the same issue keeps coming up... which is why, if you keep focusing on lack, you feel worse and worse because your desire is getting bigger and stronger (and your vibrational escrow is matching your desire... but you're still not going with it... so you're resisting even more... But, when you release the resistance! ::wow What a ride that is!

You do seem quite confused on the basics of Abe's teachings. I would definitely get one of their books, if I were you, in the meantime, keep watching the videos and check out the offical Abraham Hicks website.... if you haven't already... oh, and in the meantime, just find a way to feel a little bit better.

::hugging

 



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kategibson wrote: SeekingRelief wrote:
Could someone explain that a little more please? I think I might have the idea about the escrow part...but, what does rockets of expansion mean

All right I'll give it a go.

Whenever you experience something that you don't want, you immediately know what you do want. This is not always deliberate or even conscious but it always happens. The rocket of desire is you knowing what you do want and sending that desire (consciously or unconsciously) out into the universe. This is referred to as Step One - Ask

Step 2 is the most exciting to me, and it is not our work at all, but i like knowing how it goes: Source energy sees what you do want, and because Source can only feel good they have the power to immediately turn 100% of their attention to the desire. They do not for a second focus on the lack of the desire, or tell the old story of what you don't want. So for them, powerful LOA gives Source what YOU do want instantly. And Source revels in what you do want, and they adore you for giving it to them, and they sit over there in it (your vibrational escrow) just calling you with all their joy to come and join them in it. (Isn't that delicious?)

Step 3 is the allowing. That is where you are able to do as source did and focus only on the positive thing that you do want (or at least not focus on the negative lack of it). When you stop looking at the lack, its like Source just grabs you and pulls you into your escrow. it is natural for you to go, but focussing on lack holds you apart. and that focus and that feeling of being held apart feels like negative emotion. So that is why Abraham says the most important thing is to feel good. Because feeling bad in just an indicator that you are holding yourself apart from source.

Isn't it magnificent?

::hugging Kate

Kate,
I've read at least 100 explanations of ASK-BELIEVE-RECEIVE and yours is THE best, most inspiring one yet. You really make us FEEL IT better than ever. Terrific job!

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Thanks bmaster :kiss:  :kiss: :kiss:

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::TU Just wanting to add my appreciation of Kate's MASTERFUL explanation! :kiss:

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aniheartThank you to all of you who shared and cared....
I'm feeling much, much deep appreciation for each one of you.
 I just posted in the "Abraham Success Stories..."
This has been an amazing past few days... 
This is the life I always knew was possible...
NOW I understand... and will keep expanding


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