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Autistic Revolution DVD Study group for July
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 Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 03:19 am
Beautiful post Evey, just beautiful.::hugging

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 Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 06:18 pm
I agree, Evey. So beautiful. I love that what has happened within you, is teaching you all unconditional love. :beautiful:

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 Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 06:28 pm
And dearest Joyful Vibe--I can understand what you are saying, of course. It makes sense! ::devil and in no way do I take offense. ( And even if I did, that would be my rocket of desire to catch up with.)
But I would gently ask you: Are you asking me to be different so that you can be okay?
Are you requesting me or anyone to change how they speak when they label your son so that you can be more comfortable?

Because if so, that is conditional love, and it will drive you crazy.
So let me be clear--I don't care about the label. Evey's brilliant "A's" is very elegant. A+!

But I think this might be very helpful in what you are working with in your son's diagnosis.

Does it matter what others call him? Does HE care? (I love that SPLAT story!)
Does it matter what others call me? I am working on not caring what others think. I know you are too.
This might be a great place to start.

With much much much love and appreciation,
L::rainbow

IT'S OKAY.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 09:32 pm
Leslie wrote: But I would gently ask you: Are you asking me to be different so that you can be okay?
Are you requesting me or anyone to change how they speak when they label your son so that you can be more comfortable?

Yes, I am. I am asking.  That's exactly what I'm doing. I am opening my heart and honestly letting you all know where I am on this subject.
This is where I am. I am not in a place where that label feels 100% good. I am on my way to okay....even something beyond okay that I can't describe right now.
When I feel sweet freedom and joy within myself for all my traits, then I can look at my son and feel more complete joy in his autisic traits ----then when you describe kids that fall on the spectrum as Austistics---then I won't even notice. I even felt a ping when you said you wished you were autistic. Hmm. Spoken like someone who doesn't know, really know, what it means, how altered life is.

It's kind of like how you want me to go up the EGS if/when I post here. Or post only from within my vortex. Why? So you can be comfortable and feel good?
Are you requesting me or anyone to change how they speak when they label your son (or post on the forum..added by JV) so that you can be more comfortable? You can ask. I can ask.

Does that make sense? ::devil

::huggingJ LaV

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 Posted: Fri Jul 9th, 2010 05:54 am
My Abe peeps - I'm out.

I'm not a vibe-match to this thread. Wee bit of forcing myself, and that's no fun.

Buzzing onward.....

::hearts JV


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 Posted: Fri Jul 9th, 2010 10:16 am
:allgood Dear Joyful Vibe,
I love you. And I love your son. Be here if it is helpful for you. Stay away if it is not. All is well.


It's Okay.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 9th, 2010 05:05 pm
Ditto for me too! I have enjoyed our interaction so much! :kiss:

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 02:03 am
Evey wrote: Ditto for me too! I have enjoyed our interaction so much! :kiss:
I think you son will feel that too when he feels that he is exaclty as he meant to be...I think whatever you can do to feel good about terms used to describe your son is a good thing. When you embrace it and fall in love with, with all its brilliance, you will experience something amazing.

Wow I just saw a clip of a young man who teachs "A" children and Abraham is so amazing. Abraham calls them "teachers of unconditional love" and "teachers of freedom" and go on to say that we all come here with a FULL VIEW of our physical bodies before we come so no one comes here to be trapped into a body that they dont want to be in, no exceptions!



Me too (enjoyed your thoughts on your self-discovery). 
Evey, the bolded text above...I really appreciated your words. I got teary eyed thinking about falling in love with autism and all its brilliance....and then your knowing that I will experience something amazing. I believe that and that gives me comfort and excitement for what is coming. ::hugging


:kiss:

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 03:42 am
::stardust::hugging::stardust:kiss:

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 12:31 pm
I'm angry.  And since I have requested that if members want to post from out of the Vortex, that they move up the scale and acknowledge that movement, I am going to demonstrate it, right now.

Here is the link to the emotional guidance scale.
http://theabeforum.com/forum7/10001.html

Here is the scale itself:
  1. Joy/Knowledge/Empowerment/Freedom/Love/Appreciation
  2. Passion
  3. Enthusiasm/Eagerness/Happiness
  4. Positive Expectation/Belief
  5. Optimism
  6. Hopefulness
  7. Contentment
  8. Boredom
  9. Pessimism
  10. Frustration/Impatience/Irritation
  11. “Overwhelment”
  12. Disappointment
  13. Doubt
  14. Worry
  15. Blame
  16. Discouragement
  17. Anger
  18. Revenge
  19. Hatred/Rage
  20. Jealousy
  21. Insecurity/Guilt/Unworthiness
  22. Fear/Grief/Depression/Despair/Powerlessness
---From the book "Ask and It is Given", by Jerry and Esther Hicks, pg. 114

So, I'm angry.  I'm at level 17.
I'm going to move myself up the scale now, because this is the ABRAHAM FORUM and we are here to PRACTICE THE TEACHINGS OF ABRAHAM.  It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of our posts, it doesn't matter if anyone else feels 'COMFORTABLE' about what we post here, IT MATTERS THAT WE TRY TO FEEL BETTER.

This is not a place for endlessly airing our grievances. It is a place for practicing the teachings of Abraham.  That is why I request that members MAKE THE EFFORT to consciously move up the scale. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON.

Well--there, I thoroughly explored my anger at level 17!
Next stop, Discouragement.

16.  I feel so discouraged that long time members may not GET this very simple idea! It's like, are we just spinning our wheels here?!
15. BLAME--It is people's own fault if they don't want to practice this stuff and instead point fingers, just like I am doing right now!!! I guess, I can feel some compassion, because it must feel better for them to blame ME. ahhhh I get it! That was an unconscious movement up the scale!!!! Wow! That makes so much sense! Oh, wow. I'm crying now, in public, the only place where I can get wiFi.  Oh wow.

QUANTUM LEAP.

1. Joy, love, empowerment, love, love love love love love love love love love love.

It's okay.

It is okay.

All is well.
It's all good.

It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of me.
It only matters what I think.
I think:  I'm glad for what this DVD study group has created. I love this forum. I love this thread. I love every member who has contributed to it. I love this contrast. I love what it has produced. It's all good. it's all good.

I feels so much better, it makes me weep with joy. Wow. This stuff really really works.

Thank you.


ETA: I did that! I consciously moved myself up the scale, and the ride was better than I could have imagined! I had no idea that THAT would happen, but I knew that it would be good. And wow. I'm really blown away by this, if I do say so myself. I feel so much better. and I DID THAT.

Last edited on Sat Jul 10th, 2010 01:01 pm by Leslie

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 01:39 pm
Okay! that was something! I hope that the OOTV parts of my last post were not uncomfortable for anyone, but you know what? I will trust that if they are, you will do the work to help yourself feel better about it. 

Also, I am cutting myself some slack, because I'm abroad and it's intense here.  So that 'outburst' was just the bouncing off place for me.  And it's okay.

So, now that I feel better, I want to address something directly.

Dear Joyful Vibe, thank you for your honesty regarding your journey with your son.

Now that I am back in alignment, I want to directly answer what you asked:  Why do I request members who want to post from out of the Vortex, to consciously make an effort to move up the scale? Is it to make the post more comfortable to read?

Here on the Abe Forum, our mandate is to discuss the application of the teachings of Abraham to our lives.

One of those teachings is the idea that, while it is okay to explore 'where we are' briefly, it is of most value to care how we feel and to try to feel better. To reach for relief. To find a better feeling thought.

So, on the forum, we do not encourage long tirades of 'what is.'  It is okay to consider briefly where we are.

But the process of CONSCIOUSLY moving ourselves up the scale is SO EMPOWERING. And that is the point of this 'rule.' It is to EMPOWER the person posting.

So often, people post asking others for help moving up the scale. And while this is fine, and really lovely to watch, it is the energetic equivalent of tossing someone a fish, instead of teaching them how to catch a fish on their own. Or whatever that truism is.::devil


So, I am all about empowerment. I believe that we have everything we need within us to make ourselves feel better. And this is one of those tools.

It is EXTREMELY SATISFYING to consciously move oneself up the scale. 

I hope that answers the question fully!

And I appreciate this opportunity to explore my own mind.

Thanks guys. I'm going for a walk now.::runmickey

I appreciate you for reading this!

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 05:26 pm
Leslie,
::hugging

I'm giving you a hug with words and my vibration now. Huggity hug HUG!

I know you are doing your best to moderate this forum. You are giving it your all. And I know you're busy working too. Away from home.

I heard that under anger is hurt. And I'm guessing you were feeling hurt by my....pushing an opinion or idea or something ~~ we just weren't vibrationally clicking on something. Or maybe hurt that I am just being defiant on a point and not agreeing.

Sure feels better when we all agree and come from the same or similar tone/vibration, doesn't it?

I think I'm not in a place about autism and my son, that you would like me to be.
I was seeking compassion; I had/have lots of resistance to feeling ....mandated to express my emotions a certain way.
And I was feeling pressure from you (it's within myself but maybe that's the blaming something outside of me thing you were saying) to feel a certain way about autism NOW.

I have to tell you that with anything - autism or any disability, like if I or a loved one was to become disabled - like injury and become a paraplegic or if someone died......no matter how long I've studied Abraham....I would still need time to feel my feelings and adjust and find a way to live feeling better. It takes time. For me. Grief takes time. And I apologize to no one -  for how I feel or that I'm even feeling grief or anger or sadness about my son and his autistic traits.

Have I disappointed you in how I'm dealing with this? How I didn't beat the drum of how awesome it is to live with someone who is autistic? My growth in this could take all of his life, the rest of my days. I have no idea when.....or IF....I will ever be happy about it. It's an every minute reach for the thoughts that feel better about my kid, and about many things in my life. (to anyone reading this please know I love my son beyond words and so much is good. I was holding him the other night while he was falling asleep and I felt the full blending of Who We Really Are. just don't want people jumping on me as if I don't adore him.)

Anyway, I'm glad you're feeling better. And, with me you can be as angry as you want (and angry with me) and not even DO THE WORK. Cuz I know you'll get to it whenever. Love and acceptance remains. Time to be easy with all this. Really. Easy on myself, easy on you ::stardust

(would be really cool to focus on what Abe has said about autistics and how advanced they are and how they are here to help open us to new ways of communicating. .....think I just realized a lot of my resistance is fear that I'm not up to the task. Gulp. Think I'll saying some affirming things to myself ...over and over 'til I change that belief. Think a different thought enough and grow a new belief: I am ready for this. I have been focusing on loving him and that is always good. I desire to go through this growth experience not in pain and angst, but in real joy and ease and laughter. The answers, the help I feel I need is on the way. And in the meantime, I will keep reaching for my joy, that wave of love that surges through me. Source is me, is with me. I don't have to have it all figured out today. I don't have to force an emotion I'm not feeling. I just have to be me relaxing. Me breathing deep the strength that is here for me. My son chose me and his daddy for this ride. I am worthy. I am resilient. I am open to Love. I am Love. ::stardust

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 05:45 pm
joyful vibe wrote:  

Have I disappointed you in how I'm dealing with this?

Joyful, i seriously doubt that you did! But the main thing is not to give a rats arse about anyone else thinks but your own movement up the scale. I think that is what leslie is saying. Care about you! Care about you! Care about the relationship between you and you. I think your son is saying the same thing. "I came here being so different on purpose because it is powerful way to teach and provide balance and it would be nice if you got over it (fun) but it does not matter if you dont because i am not changing the way i am to please you. In fact i think i will not notice that much that you are not pleased." ::hugging::hugging

 

Leslie, awesome way to work up the scale. I loved it! it felt like fresh air. And it made me laugh at the times I get angry sometimes at others.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 09:44 pm
I do not have the DVD but was planning to lurk on this thread as I have just had my first brush with autism. However, I feel inspired to tell my story.

I recently manifested the opportunity to fulfil a lifelong dream of being trained to teach maths to children in a scheme called One-To-One.

I was given Archie as my case study on the course and then as a student on the scheme. He was presented to me as uncommunicative by the teacher and “stuck” academically in that his levels have not advanced for over three years which means that he is pronounced to be below his expected level for his age. He is 8.

His school have tried to have him diagnosed as having special educational needs which would mean extra funding for extra tuition but he is failing the statementing tests. They cannot find anything “wrong” with him.

My experience with this child baffled me completely. I discovered an artistic, bright, sincere, self-believer with a canny little sense of humour and a knowing air of all being well. Although a little reticent at first, he quickly co-created with me in establishing a trusting and mature work relationship between us.

I prepared lessons which approached his curriculum from different angles but in each subject he demonstrated an adequate and sometimes more-than-adequate understanding of the subjects and I had to throw most of what I had prepared in the bin. Now I was the one who was stuck!

I work with an ex-teacher in my office job who has been an excellent sounding board and on hearing about Archie he asked if he could bounce my dilemma off someone he knew who might be able to help. This person was my colleague’s mother who, now retired, had held a senior position within a local authority working with autism in schools. She sent me this message:

“Everybody falls somewhere on the autism spectrum. Everybody. Archie displays the characteristics of someone a little further along the spectrum than “neuro-normals” but not so far that he is displaying all the traits which would lead to a formal diagnosis.


He is not academically challenged - as has been proved by his failing the statementing tests - he is bored. And so he shuts out what is boring him.

I advise you to play to his artistic and mathematical strengths in order to create a frame of reference to which he can relate.”

Hmmm... I thought. I’m not keen on labelling and this information is way beyond my brief and my training. Then I remembered that Abraham speaks of autism and watched the Paradigm Shift clip. I tingled.

Perhaps my immersion in these teachings is what is serving me in this situation. Perhaps I have unconsciously read his energy rather than trying to relate to him with speech. I could think of no other course of action and so I decided to secretly try what the woman had advised without telling the school. I began to teach him algebra.

I taught him the importance of a nice sharp pencil, of sitting up straight and viewing and owning his work, and then I introduced algebra. I demonstrated the effectiveness of well laid out formal notation. Within 15 minutes the child was solving simple algebraic equations. I had only a few sessions left as I had spent time getting myself to this understanding but we made wonderful progress in a very short time.

Archie was given his usual end-of-term assessment and his level in maths has jumped to “average for his age”. This is a notable achievement in a school which struggles academically, it is almost the equivalent of being above average in this environment. The teacher had tears in her eyes when she told me the news as did I.

The pronouncement from my colleague’s mother that everyone is on the autistic spectrum resonated with me as I am very comfortable not speaking in social gatherings. I’m often called quiet or deep, but it’s simply that I feel no calling to speak. I can be loud and socially skilled, but only when I feel like it. My man, on the other hand, will chatter incessantly and I often notice that he has nothing to say really, he’s just behaving in a way that feels comfortable for him.

That’s my story. I’m not trying to say anything here, I have no idea whether Archie has autism or not. This is a whole new subject for me so excuse my ignorance but I shall be reading the posts voraciously as I feel that acquiring knowledge will serve me in my new career.

There are so many autistic children coming into the school where I work that they are building a whole new wing devoted to teaching them.


Joanne x

::stardust

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 10:43 pm
Joanne! Thank you for sharing this story! ::stardust

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 Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2010 10:49 pm
shiningsalsa wrote:
My experience with this child baffled me completely. I discovered an artistic, bright, sincere, self-believer with a canny little sense of humour and a knowing air of all being well.
**
“Everybody falls somewhere on the autism spectrum. Everybody. Archie displays the characteristics of someone a little further along the spectrum than “neuro-normals” but not so far that he is displaying all the traits which would lead to a formal diagnosis.


Joanne!!
::TU:kiss:
I want to cry with relief and happiness.
After reading your post I got my first real, genuine, rush of
LUCKY ME!!! LUCKY LUCKY ME!!!  I AM SO BLESSED!!! REALLY REALLY REALLY!!  WE ARE ALL AUTISTIC! AND MY KIDDO HAS THE DIAGNOSIS! HOW COOL!! How incredible for all who get to work with him and know him and care about him. Thank you Source for this gift. :kiss:

Joyful Vibe Sandy

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 Posted: Sun Jul 11th, 2010 02:07 am
::wow to Joyful Vibe Sandy and Joanne - your sharing is truly a gift to us reading here. Thank you so much.::hugging::hugging::hugging

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I agree. This is an incredible thread, and so much expansion and allowing are happening here.

I feel irritated. That is level 10 on the scale. Well, that is better than anger, so good for me for moving up my set point. Another way to handle this would be for me to leave the topic completely and focus on things that feel good, like Joanne's amazing story, or Evey's fantastic July Med Thread, and that would be fine. But since the issue under contention is Process number 22 in Ask and It is Given, Moving Up The Emotional Scale, I am going to demonstrate it again. And this is entirely for ME, so that I feel better. Because I want to feel good about this thread and my position on the forum, and frankly, i don't give a rip what anyone thinks about it.

Level 10. Irritation--It is so irritating to be misunderstood. (IB says--Evey got it!)

Level 9. Pessimism--Most people will probably not get this stuff until they croak.

Level 8. Boredom--I AM SO BORED OF REPEATING MYSELF. In fact, moderator decisions are off topic for the forum, so I could easily delete this whole interaction.

Ahhh, sweet relief at that thought.
Level 8. Contentment--It's okay. It is OK. Nothing has to happen. Nobody has to 'get it.' Except me. I I I have the get it. And I do. This feels so good.
Level 7. Hopefulness--I hope people get it. In fact, I hope the world gets it, and like I said before, they will when they croak! And croaking is a good thing! I love talking to my dad! I need to respond on that other thread, but I just talked to him and he said, 'Leave that girl alone!'

Okay, Dad!

Ooh, now that I am back in the Vortex, I say--I am going to keep myself on topic on this thread now. I may start another thread for the Moving Up the EGS process. We are here on this thread to discuss Autism from the Abraham perspective. We are blessed to have a mom who has a son with a diagnosis. This is truly a gift.


And I just understood something. Joyful Vibe--you and I are a match. I want to control how you post on the forum, and you want to control how people think about your son. It is a match.

So, I am going to let go of control and just Hold The Vision of this forum, moderating itself, so that only people applying the teaching to their lives (which of course, you are doing, JV, as is everyone on this thread) and anything other than that will feel uncomfortable posting here. It's so simple.
I will trust the power that creates worlds!

Wow, I feel so much better. That is awesome.

I really love you guys, and this work. I am going to reply to that other thread, then meditate.::ohm

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 Posted: Sun Jul 11th, 2010 04:05 am
Leslie, every single interaction i have observed from you always adds...and it is worth it even if only one person gets it. But it is always worth it if you expand and keep up with it and you are.

I see all of us expanding and it feels so good to see and when we keep up, that really feels so good!

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 Posted: Sun Jul 11th, 2010 04:31 am
Leslie wrote: And I just understood something. Joyful Vibe--you and I are a match. I want to control how you post on the forum, and you want to control how people think about your son. It is a match.

Leslie,
I....do...not....want...to....control anything about what anyone thinks about me or about my son. (that is your thingy, not mine) I don't care what others think, and I've only been met with pure love, kindness, upliftment, support, understanding and caring on this subject (and where I am in processing it). I opened up and love from so many sources (of sweet Source) has been flowing to me. Just realized that gift in this too....

What I wanted to do was feel Abe-fantastic about Autism and my son and I needed to allow myself time for that. I felt rushed. I felt that you were rushing me. You weren't. That was my trip. Within our interchange (which I knew you would consider deleting, surprised you haven't already), I boom boom boom launched rockets. And I've allowed what I so desired to come in.
And isn't that the point. To feel better. Regardless of anyone outside of you who is being a rascal and "making" you angry, then irritated.

In between this morning's posting and when I had an aha after Joanne's beautiful post - I had lunch with a friend who said it is okay how I'm feeling and to not expect anyone to understand unless they've gone through it. And I listened to an old Abe CD and the entire CD had me soaring, opened me up to allowing.

We aren't a match now. Let's quit forcing it ~ cuz we'll connect again vibrationally in the near future, of that I have no doubt, and we can have a love fest and mutual admiration addition to this thread. Personally I think that would be wonnnnnnnderful to experience and uplifting for anyone to read.

Kind of funny how I was so done with this thread and on and on I still posted. I wasn't done. Maybe Source knew the expansion I was going to have today and gently nudged me to hang in there - and speak my truth. I'm always going to speak my truth. Always.

::singerJV




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